Gecko doesn’t have a WebView implementation (GeckoView is not a WebView implementation), so it has to be used alongside the Chromium-based WebView rather than instead of Chromium, which means having the remote attack surface of two separate browser engines instead of only one.
This seems to be the main thrust. GrapheneOS has a hardened WebView, that using a Gecko browser bypasses and adds more attack surface because you still have the WebView.
Outside of Graphene this is less relevant (because of the lack of hardening) and outside of mobile only the isolation comments are relevant, which they note are being improved rapidly in desktop.
Arguments in favour of using Gecko browsers are typically about preventing a single corporation from monopolising web standards, and having continued access to proper ad blockers, things that are not part of Graphene’s focus.
Don’t even get me started. I’ve always hated Apple for this kind of stuff, and now they’re making Android even worse, piece by piece.
And given that society is dependent on phones, we’re all fucked. I don’t know if a Linux phone can do much given how it’s mostly non capitalistic. I wish though. But adoption-wise I don’t know if it could be a contender anyway. I’m not well-versed in it, but I’m just assuming the worst since the world is falling apart right now and my hope gland needs surgery. 😭
It’s just another Chrome.
By GrapheneOS
This seems to be the main thrust. GrapheneOS has a hardened WebView, that using a Gecko browser bypasses and adds more attack surface because you still have the WebView.
Outside of Graphene this is less relevant (because of the lack of hardening) and outside of mobile only the isolation comments are relevant, which they note are being improved rapidly in desktop.
Arguments in favour of using Gecko browsers are typically about preventing a single corporation from monopolising web standards, and having continued access to proper ad blockers, things that are not part of Graphene’s focus.
Fruit of a very poisonous tree. Never trust chromium. Not even once.
Exactly. Especially considering what they’re doing to Android.
Don’t even get me started. I’ve always hated Apple for this kind of stuff, and now they’re making Android even worse, piece by piece.
And given that society is dependent on phones, we’re all fucked. I don’t know if a Linux phone can do much given how it’s mostly non capitalistic. I wish though. But adoption-wise I don’t know if it could be a contender anyway. I’m not well-versed in it, but I’m just assuming the worst since the world is falling apart right now and my hope gland needs surgery. 😭